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Post subject: NAMM video clip
 Posted: Feb 22, 2007 - 12:40 PM
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After seeing the 2007 NAMM YouTube.com video clip of Ed jamming. I've come to the conclusion that his guitar playing skills these days sound the same way he dresses - BAD. Nothing new, it seems the WOW factor is gone. Just plays the same old riffs that he's been picking and tapping for the last ten years. Time to hang it up, take his millions, buy a surf board and go hang out at the beach with his kid.
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Posted: Feb 22, 2007 - 01:22 PM
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| Eddie sounded great at NAMM.. It's been a while since he has played like that... He wasn't bad... |
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Posted: Mar 04, 2007 - 08:09 AM
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| Yeah, he had no effects and he still sounded great! |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 03:23 AM
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| Love the NAMM '07 clip - He just looks like he's up there having a good time!!! |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 03:26 AM
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| why cant we just let old stuff go. if you guys think that was great your gonna pee your pants when you see the ed some of us know. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 03:57 AM
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 04:14 AM
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| Does anybody have a link to the NAMM clip, I wanted to see it again??? |
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| p.s. effects dont make you sound great by the way. if you cant play and play through ed's or dillon's or shaggy's my rig anyone's here you will still sound bad. if you dont have a solid founation your still gonna sound the same no matter what. effects only enhance so i dont understand the no effects stuff. ed plays iwth no effects in the studio they are mixed in after the fact. no big deal really. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 04:58 AM
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They definetly HIDE a bad performance with harmonic overtones ..Thus the "No effects comment".....I hope that explains it..You seem to think Ed's performance was bad also....I thought it was kinda cool(IMO)..Play through a fender fm amp and you will see how bad a good guitarist can sound..,.worst amp I have ever heard in my life.Yes you are correct a good guitarist can make any equipment sound better...(.just not as good as he would be with his own rig)I rarely use effects and don't own a rack because they can become a crutch.I worked for two studios in the 80's as a session player and yes you can add almost any effect at anytime in the studio but some effects they have to be manually controlled....many of Ed's effects were manipulated by pedals while he was playing.
I hope this clarify's my statement .......You sound so authoritative on the subject us regular ol 'guitar players must seem stupid.........geez |
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Post subject: Re: NAMM video clip
Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 06:26 AM
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Bzooka78 wrote:
After seeing the 2007 NAMM YouTube.com video clip of Ed jamming. I've come to the conclusion that his guitar playing skills these days sound the same way he dresses - BAD. Nothing new, it seems the WOW factor is gone. Just plays the same old riffs that he's been picking and tapping for the last ten years. Time to hang it up, take his millions, buy a surf board and go hang out at the beach with his kid.
Sincerely - a fan before Dave left the band.
Do you refer to Ed's "same old riffs" EVH and VH fans and music industry personnel crave seeing live in concert or at NAMM; the "same old riffs" good enough to sell 75,000,000+ records and deliver VH to RRHOF? |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 11:32 PM
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They definetly HIDE a bad performance with harmonic overtones ..Thus the "No effects comment".....I hope that explains it..You seem to think Ed's performance was bad also....I thought it was kinda cool(IMO)..Play through a fender fm amp and you will see how bad a good guitarist can sound..,.worst amp I have ever heard in my life.Yes you are correct a good guitarist can make any equipment sound better...(.just not as good as he would be with his own rig)I rarely use effects and don't own a rack because they can become a crutch.I worked for two studios in the 80's as a session player and yes you can add almost any effect at anytime in the studio but some effects they have to be manually controlled....many of Ed's effects were manipulated by pedals while he was playing.
I hope this clarify's my statement .......You sound so authoritative on the subject us regular ol 'guitar players must seem stupid.........geez
woooooooooooo killer. i never said it was bad. it was ed. it dosent matter if you use effects or not some guitarist will use that as there crutch, like oh i cant play that i have no effects, so no id ont think it was bad. just to me not a big deal. your comment at the end sounds a tad sarcastic. almost lke i dont know what i am talking about.  |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 11:42 PM
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J_Alexander wrote:
kramer1984 wrote:
They definetly HIDE a bad performance with harmonic overtones ..Thus the "No effects comment".....I hope that explains it..You seem to think Ed's performance was bad also....I thought it was kinda cool(IMO)..Play through a fender fm amp and you will see how bad a good guitarist can sound..,.worst amp I have ever heard in my life.Yes you are correct a good guitarist can make any equipment sound better...(.just not as good as he would be with his own rig)I rarely use effects and don't own a rack because they can become a crutch.I worked for two studios in the 80's as a session player and yes you can add almost any effect at anytime in the studio but some effects they have to be manually controlled....many of Ed's effects were manipulated by pedals while he was playing.
I hope this clarify's my statement .......You sound so authoritative on the subject us regular ol 'guitar players must seem stupid.........geez
woooooooooooo killer. i never said it was bad. it was ed. it dosent matter if you use effects or not some guitarist will use that as there crutch, like oh i cant play that i have no effects, so no id ont think it was bad. just to me not a big deal. your comment at the end sounds a tad sarcastic. almost lke i dont know what i am talking about.
Your post came off as a bit condesending ...yes that was sarcasm......I beleive you know what your talking about.....no need to point out the obvious unless you are being condesending towards people...perhaps I took it the wrong way....I apologize. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 11:49 PM
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| Ed was good at namm. He was drunk, but he played really good. |
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Posted: Mar 20, 2007 - 11:52 PM
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| Well although Ed may have been drunk, he sure knew what he was talking about. He described the Franky, thanked everyone. I loved NAMM. |
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| I am new here but have been a huge fan since 80-82 give or take . I always wonder why negaive posts get started on Eddie's playing of the same riff or tapping lines at a NAMM conference. I mean does anyone really think this is a vehicle to play something new at or "groundbreaking"? I believe most of the audience is there to see how the instruments or equipment used is going to make them money as music merchants. I have seen and or heard alot of his appearences at NAMM and besides this being a little shorter than most it is by all accounts par for the course. Now this does not nor has any other NAMM appearance compete with some of the mindblowing performances I have seen from 81 to 2004 even. I was at 5 shows in 04 and besides the fiasco in tuscon(last tour show, I was gassed and I felt sober to what I witnessed on stage), the solos were good to killer. So I guess to sum it up Namm really isn't for the musician but more for the manufacturers and the equipment.IMO. Sorry for the 1st long post but just had to vent a little. I hope no toes were trampled!!! |
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